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Author Topic: Oprah Show Impact on Christmastime lending?  (Read 3422 times)
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« on: September 13, 2007, 12:45:53 PM »

I am one of the many people who found out about Kiva.org on the Oprah show.  It was just what I had been looking for to help the poor through microcredit loans and I enthusiastically became a lender with Kiva that very day.  I have seen how many others just like me have overwhelmed Kiva with their desire to lend, frequently leaving the site with no loans for a period of time.  I know that the Kiva staff is working hard to bring more loans to the site so that the tidal wave of new lenders from the Oprah show can have an opportunity to get on board. 
So excited about Kiva am I that I am planning on giving multiple Kiva gift certificates to friends and family at Christmas time.  I want to spread the word.  It occurred to me that many others will likely do this as well, thus causing another huge surge of people wanting to start lending with Kiva.  I hope the Kiva staff is preparing for this secondary wave of enthusiasm with their lending partners in the field.
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« Reply To This #1 on: September 15, 2007, 11:18:20 PM »

Christmastime sure is a time to give Kiva gift certificates.... I know that's when I do.  Make sure to pair it with the up-and-coming Kiva 2008 calendar!

"Filling the pipeline" is a difficult task, especially when Kiva does not want to start lending to less able entrepreneurs (as Matt stated on his blog).  I just hope that all the people that are interested in Kiva don't lose interest simply because they can't loan right now.  The pipeline will eventually fill again. 
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« Reply To This #2 on: September 16, 2007, 03:46:24 AM »

Anyone serious about lending would know this I hope.
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« Reply To This #3 on: September 16, 2007, 04:23:38 AM »

Loans seem to be available more of the day.  Also, at first it was one loan at a time.  Now there are usually five or so.  At one point on Saturday there were 23 loans.  So things are getting back toward a balance.

I suspect gift certificates have a longer delay than Oprah.  This will spread Christmas loans out over time.  With vacations and concerns over January bills which will offset gift certificates, I think it will be a blip in the history.

A bigger bulge will be when these loans suddenly start paying off.

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« Reply To This #4 on: September 19, 2007, 08:04:53 AM »

"A bigger bulge will be when these loans suddenly start paying off."

Colette:  I tend to agree with you.  Currently average Kiva lenders has 2.3 loans.  This implies that vast majority of the lenders are waiting for the outcome of their experiment of lending money to total strangers in countries with lots of political unrest, corruption, and frankly many of the businesses who may never have the capacity to pay back.  Currently, Kiva has about 20% loans that are paid back.  Once a lender goes through an entire cycle, he/she may decide to come back and may decide to increase the size of their loan portfolio.

Relatively speaking I also see that loans from Credit World relief in Cambodia and Ebony foundations are slower to fill.  They want large amounts $1,000 - $1,200 and have longer terms 18 mos and 24 months.
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« Reply To This #5 on: September 19, 2007, 09:10:09 AM »

frankly many of the businesses who may never have the capacity to pay back.

That concern really doesn't match with how a well-run MFI operates.  Loans typically are based on a borrower's capacity to pay back the loan assuming current cash flows, not success at how the loan will be used.  If that's still a concern to a lender, stick with the five-star MFIs or buy a CD.
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« Reply To This #6 on: September 19, 2007, 02:04:41 PM »

"If that's still a concern to a lender, stick with the five-star MFIs or buy a CD."

well when an average lender only has 2.3 loans, I am sure that is what they are doing  Smiley
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« Reply To This #7 on: September 19, 2007, 05:20:52 PM »

Nothing wrong with that.  Too many lenders, not enough borrowers, guaranteed long-term financial losses.
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« Reply To This #8 on: September 22, 2007, 12:13:23 AM »

"If that's still a concern to a lender, stick with the five-star MFIs or buy a CD."

well when an average lender only has 2.3 loans, I am sure that is what they are doing  Smiley
I'd have to quibble with you on that one.

We only have 4 loans to our family's name, but that's simply because that's what we can reasonably afford.
Right now we're a single income family with two kids, so...

Not everyone has a lot of excess disposable income, ja know?  Wink
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« Reply To This #9 on: September 22, 2007, 05:56:05 AM »

"We only have 4 loans to our family's name, but that's simply because that's what we can reasonably afford.
Right now we're a single income family with two kids, so..."

where in my comment did I imply that every one should have gazillion loans?
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« Reply To This #10 on: September 22, 2007, 06:46:26 AM »

I'd have to quibble with you on that one.

We only have 4 loans to our family's name, but that's simply because that's what we can reasonably afford.
Right now we're a single income family with two kids, so...

Not everyone has a lot of excess disposable income, ja know?  Wink

Proxieme - welcome to KivaFriends!   And I think you've made a very valid point.   And then there's the power of sheer numbers that the Kiva platform facilitates.   100,000 people each lending $25 or $50 or $100 makes a big difference..

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« Reply To This #11 on: September 22, 2007, 07:18:22 AM »

simba - I may have misread, but the discussion seemed to be going in the direction that the relatively low number of kiva loans per lender is primarily based upon those lenders holding back in order to reserve judgment on the relative efficacy and reliability of the process.

I was just popping in to say that, while that is very likely the case with some, a great many others are simply doing what they can.

Personally (since we're not getting any interest return), I'm taking the stance that a loan defaulted upon was money donated to an earnest try; a loan returned may be recycled back into the process.  For instance, I've been keeping an eye out for loans in Iraq and Afghanistan - and I can honestly say that I don't really care if that money comes back to us (as it is at a fairly substantial risk of not doing).  If our small bit of a loan can do its part to help bring stability to those areas, that's enough for me.

peter - Hi and thanks  Cheesy
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And then there's the power of sheer numbers that the Kiva platform facilitates.   100,000 people each lending $25 or $50 or $100 makes a big difference..
Exactly!  Yes
I mean, if you look at our net income, our little family's just marginally middle class; but, if after essentials and savings, we can find $25 a month to inject into the wonderful Kiva process, we have the potential to be of real help in giving someone a "hand up". 
When our modest effort's combine with those of students, teachers, investors, and other assorted practical dreamers, we can make a substantial difference.

That's cool  Smiley
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« Reply To This #12 on: September 22, 2007, 08:34:55 AM »

proxieme:

I think you did misread.  The comment was in response to an earlier comment who commented on my comment.

I guess that is the trouble with internet BB.  Any sentence can be taken out of context.

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« Reply To This #13 on: September 22, 2007, 11:35:33 AM »

Ah, OK - sorry about that.  Embarrassed

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