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Christopher
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« on: September 17, 2007, 10:45:10 AM » |
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Let voting commence for round 2! You have 13 votes to use (nominally 12 months + cover), which will give us a priority list to work from. You may change your vote while the poll is open - which is for 5 days. The results will not be shown until the poll has ended. Entrepreneurs are listed in alphabetical order. You can vote for more than one person per country, but no countries will be duplicated in the final calendar. We will also ensure that the calendar has a balance of male and female entrepreneurs (to the Kiva ratios), and business areas / activities. In the same vain it would be desirable to have a mix of photos that include groups of people. All of the winners from the first round have come through, as have some runners up (where the voting was close - within 10%), and a different photo for Kem Pharin (because I messed up - apologies). To improve the mix the 4 entrepreneurs previously lumped into the Rest of the World Category have also come through so that we have 19 countries represented. There are 28 photos in all 11 Male - though only 3 won their previous poll 17 Female 23 photos show an individual 5 show a group (2 or more) There are five main business areas covered: Agriculture (4), Crafts (3), Manufacturing (5), Repairs (3), and Retail (13) - though the retail areas are quite varied and include food manufacture, fruit & veg sales, general stores and supply stores. As before the entrepreneur's name links to their Kiva profile, while the image links to the largest sized photo available (between 0.5 and around 2MB). |
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Diane R
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« Reply To This #1 on: September 17, 2007, 02:08:06 PM » |
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These are all such wonderful pictures, so representative of so many of the entrepreneurs we've all come to know through Kiva! Well done, folks, in choosing a great set of finalists (although I miss a few that didn't make it into the finals, as I'm sure we all do).
In trying to decide which to vote for in Round 2, I had a couple observations I wanted to pass along.
-- As much as I like the group nature of the photo for Komlan's carpentry studio, I have to admit that it looks.... posed. It's unlikely they'd be acting as they are, all together like that, in the normal course of operations. I guess I prefer the more candid photos (and since we have another carpenter maybe Philip is a better choice). Just my personal preference.
-- I also looked long and hard at Kem and The in their boats, and ultimately decided that while the photo of Kem is gorgeous, it does not represent her "at work" quite so well as The's photo does. Since we probably don't need two boat pictures, I'll probably pick The's photo and not Kem's.
It's hard to make that final set of choices! I'm trying to keep gender appropriately balanced, go for a mix of business types and locations, and they're all so wonderful and deserving! Good luck, everyone, with your decisions, and I'm sure it will be gorgeous however it ends up.
(And THANKS to the folks who have worked so well together at a distance in pulling this together!)
--Diane.
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Diane R
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« Reply To This #3 on: September 17, 2007, 02:15:25 PM » |
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I thought this was meant to be both the voting thread and a comments thread, but I'd be happy to move my comment somewhere else if people think they should be kept separate? (In Round 1 people were commenting directly in the country voting threads, hence my assumption.) Sorry if that was impolite of me.... !
--Diane.
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RichardF
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« Reply To This #4 on: September 17, 2007, 02:21:57 PM » |
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Sorry, I was just teasing.  I was trying real hard not to shout out my favorites.  |
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wind5001
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« Reply To This #5 on: September 17, 2007, 02:24:33 PM » |
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Diane, Richard posted somewhere else today that he is in kind of a mood, if I understood him right. I guess he was just joking! Oli PS: I didn't name my favourites here, because I know I have so many groupies and that would spoil your all's voting efforts...    EDIT: Just seeing that Rich was quicker...  |
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« Last Edit: September 17, 2007, 02:25:09 PM by wind5001 »
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KivanSteven
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« Reply To This #6 on: September 17, 2007, 03:02:16 PM » |
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Christopher, great job summing everything up for this poll. I thought I was going to have to sift through and see how many we had of each business, male vs female, etc etc....so personally saved me some time and its great info to have. I was thinking of suggesting of splitting up the poll men for one and women for another, after we determine what we want the female/male ratio to be....that way we wouldnt have a problem with that, but then I was thinking we might get duplicates from a single country, one man and one woman, and one of those two would have to go anyways, so it would be the same problem as the male/female ratio, only it would be an issue instead pertaining to proportion of countries.
I just placed my votes, wasnt too hard this time around, I think I voted primarily based on my favorite pics, but I did take into account culture and region, especially when it came to a couple western hemisphere pics which I chose to mix it up a little. I think I had a nice variety of everything except gender. I wont say what I had right now, but it was quite disproportionate.
Christopher just a suggestion...if we see 38-40 votes after a day or two, maybe wed want to consider shortening the poll...reason being is that this was the number we saw in all the preceding polls just concluded. It might save us a day or two of waiting, but use your best judgment. If you dont see any voting lets say for a significant period of time, maybe 16 or 24 hours, then I think it might be best to wrap it up.
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« Last Edit: September 17, 2007, 04:09:48 PM by akshara - Steve »
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I find not direction in the readings of those with whom my eccentricities are similar, but rather validation.
My only solace is that I find a peaceful place where I might be resigned to my depriving loneliness.
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Dottie b
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« Reply To This #7 on: September 18, 2007, 04:18:23 PM » |
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The only problem with closing the poll early is that it was advertised for being open for five days, and some people may think they have that long!
On another matter, I guess I don't see the rationale for having to include group pictures (though I voted for one). Overall, I voted for best photos.
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KivanSteven
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« Reply To This #8 on: September 18, 2007, 05:31:52 PM » |
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Thats true Dottie, but the past polls for pics all stated they were ending at various times monday, tuesday, and wednesday and we ended up closing them all out Monday, which was the original plan of course. I just want to get started on these write ups, early october is not far off. But thats why I said if there is no activity for a day maybe its not worth holding out until the end of the week for the poll to end. Either way we have lots to do.
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« Last Edit: September 19, 2007, 06:28:04 AM by akshara - Steve »
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I find not direction in the readings of those with whom my eccentricities are similar, but rather validation.
My only solace is that I find a peaceful place where I might be resigned to my depriving loneliness.
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cpbailey
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« Reply To This #9 on: September 19, 2007, 12:52:45 AM » |
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Steve,
I am confused. On previous post did you mean Dottie? I don't have any posts on this part of the forum...until now.
Colette
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KivanSteven
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« Reply To This #10 on: September 19, 2007, 06:27:25 AM » |
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Yeah sorry Colette, what was I thinking  Thanks |
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I find not direction in the readings of those with whom my eccentricities are similar, but rather validation.
My only solace is that I find a peaceful place where I might be resigned to my depriving loneliness.
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wind5001
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« Reply To This #11 on: September 21, 2007, 11:44:36 AM » |
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* wind5001 drumming the table with his fingers Can't wait to see the final 13!  |
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KivanSteven
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« Reply To This #12 on: September 22, 2007, 07:01:17 AM » |
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Just a few more hours....I eagerly await the results...hope Christopher can post them today. Choose not to torture us  |
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« Last Edit: September 22, 2007, 07:02:28 AM by akshara - Steve »
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I find not direction in the readings of those with whom my eccentricities are similar, but rather validation.
My only solace is that I find a peaceful place where I might be resigned to my depriving loneliness.
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wind5001
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« Reply To This #13 on: September 22, 2007, 07:13:26 AM » |
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Christopher
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« Reply To This #14 on: September 22, 2007, 10:28:58 AM » |
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[pacing the room]
It is coming down to the wire, and people are still voting and changing their votes!
Will try and post asap after the end, have a draft spreadsheet ready to do the sort...
[/pacing the room]
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KivanSteven
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« Reply To This #15 on: September 22, 2007, 11:22:32 AM » |
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Does it look like 2 men made it through to the top 14? Anyone else see a different total there and think we need to add one or two more? Im happy with most of the choices...of the top 14 I think 9 or 10 of my favs made it through. There was one or two I dont like at all...I just cant picture them in a calendar, but thats voting...toleration of others choices...if there is not going to be any debate on pic selection and male/female - business type ratios, then some of us will begin and continue write ups.
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I find not direction in the readings of those with whom my eccentricities are similar, but rather validation.
My only solace is that I find a peaceful place where I might be resigned to my depriving loneliness.
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KivanSteven
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« Reply To This #16 on: September 22, 2007, 11:30:50 AM » |
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We have a couple issues that came up with the results as we expected...Ill let Christopher elaborate and set the stage for how we will proceed with these results but here is the top 15. There was a tie for 14th place so there are 15 total...I think Christopher said he breaks ties, but here they are by country:
Ecuador
Samoa
Ecuador: male
Nicaragua
Nigeria
Afghanistan
Cambodia 3.7% tie
Togo: male
Dominican Republic
Pakistan
Cote d'ivoire
Cambodia 3.7% tie
Vietnam
Vietnam
Bolivia
There is also duplicates of Vietnam and Ecuador. Now for the biggest problem possibly--the Ecuadorian tie. One of only two men to make it through is from Ecuador, his family is the 5th pic...yet to include him and deny Alexandra Castro, the second pic on the list, would be problematic because Alexandra had the second highest voting of all 28 pics, while Armando at 4.2% was tied with another at 10th of the 15 that made it. Its obviously imperative that we do not duplicate countries, I think that is one of the core reasons why set the voting process up like we did...but the question then is if we are willing to throw out the #2 overall pic of all 80 some originally, to include the second male. Just wanted to point all this out...I havent checked on the variety of business activies yet, but hopefully it doesnt require too much tweaking,
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« Last Edit: September 22, 2007, 11:41:20 AM by akshara - Steve »
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I find not direction in the readings of those with whom my eccentricities are similar, but rather validation.
My only solace is that I find a peaceful place where I might be resigned to my depriving loneliness.
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wind5001
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« Reply To This #17 on: September 22, 2007, 11:33:41 AM » |
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Steve, check the calendar discussion thread... |
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KivanSteven
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« Reply To This #18 on: September 22, 2007, 11:42:22 AM » |
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Oh, thanks Oli, I was wondering why no one was replying here after voting ended...was thinking the poll results would be discussed here since everyone would be here checking them,,,but thanks, im heading there now
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I find not direction in the readings of those with whom my eccentricities are similar, but rather validation.
My only solace is that I find a peaceful place where I might be resigned to my depriving loneliness.
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