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« Reply To This #2020 on: February 07, 2010, 10:21:34 AM » |
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Hmm, went to get on this loan, but it is all basketed up...  |
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David2051
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« Reply To This #2021 on: February 07, 2010, 10:58:43 AM » |
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I don't know who has what in their basket or why, but it gets to be very frustrating. I signed up here to find loans I "don't want to miss" but then when I go to the loan it is completely basketed and when I look down at the teams I see the closed team Tisket. It certainly gives the appearance that a small closed clique is hoarding the loans that all of us don't want to miss. I am saddened that this appearance is so often seen.  |
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Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed... [but] ...experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. - Declaration of Independence 1 click per person per day on the link below means 1 additional cent for the Fistula Foundation - thanks! http://tinyurl.com/fight-fistulaSearch for low risk loans: http://www.kivabank.org/ Thanks Paul! |
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« Reply To This #2022 on: February 07, 2010, 11:18:34 AM » |
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This is a frequent problem, and has been for a long time. These people are completely blatant and shameless. It is within Kiva's power to stop this behaviour, and the point has been made many times to Kiva over the last 2 or 3 years, but, for whatever reason, they won't take any action. So we just have to put up with it, until those (probably very few) individuals change their selfish attitude, or Kiva thinks again.
Example - the last two Sri Lanka loans had the last $25 blocked for some 4 hours by someone (perhaps the wellknown lender and KF who was finally revealed as the lender of the last $25 on both loans).
Howard
EDIT: I should add that my post was not intended to refer to Tasket or anyone else specifically (and I apologise if it implied otherwise), but to whoever indulges in this unfair and undesirable practice.
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bikeme
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« Reply To This #2023 on: February 07, 2010, 11:19:18 AM » |
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I don't know who has what in their basket or why, but it gets to be very frustrating. I signed up here to find loans I "don't want to miss" but then when I go to the loan it is completely basketed and when I look down at the teams I see the closed team Tisket. It certainly gives the appearance that a small closed clique is hoarding the loans that all of us don't want to miss. I am saddened that this appearance is so often seen. What is really sad is that someone would make a post like this, based on nothing more than speculation, conjecture, supposition & assumption, without ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE, and disparage, denigrate & malign fellow members of this community. Unless someone has evidence or PROOF of this accusation, I strongly suggest that an apology is called for. (For those who do not understand or know how KIVA chooses to display the teams on a loan, especially the larger loans with many lenders & teams, the teams are "rotated" based on the page view. Meaning at one time a certain 5 teams may be displayed & at another time another 5 may be displayed or a combination of the two. Sometimes, a simple refresh of the page will display a different sort of teams). |
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Where today are the Pequot? Where are the Narragansett, the Mohican, the Pokanoket, and many other once powerful tribes of our people? They have vanished before the avarice & the oppression of the White Man, as snow before a summer sun. Will we let ourselves be destroyed in our turn without a struggle, give up our homes, our country bequeathed to us by the Great Spirit, the graves of our dead & everything that is dear & sacred to us? I know you will cry with me, "Never! Never!"---Tecumseh of the Shawnee
"They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but they never kept but one; they promised to take our land, & they took it."---Mahpiua Luta (Red Cloud) of the Oglala Sioux
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« Reply To This #2024 on: February 07, 2010, 11:24:24 AM » |
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I don't know who has what in their basket or why, but it gets to be very frustrating. I signed up here to find loans I "don't want to miss" but then when I go to the loan it is completely basketed and when I look down at the teams I see the closed team Tisket. It certainly gives the appearance that a small closed clique is hoarding the loans that all of us don't want to miss. I am saddened that this appearance is so often seen. Hmmm, still basketed. Hmmm, nobody in chat. Methinks it is not the TaT team that is doing the basketing. |
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David2051
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« Reply To This #2025 on: February 07, 2010, 11:31:44 AM » |
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Hmmm, still basketed. Hmmm, nobody in chat. Methinks it is not the TaT team that is doing the basketing. I spoke only of appearances. The fact of the matter is that I was offered a piece of a loan recently by a "TaT" team member a full 6 hours after I originally tried to get on the loan. This is something I don't want to be a part of. I recently found a dropped piece of the Faten loan. I hope it was from someone who changed their mind. |
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Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed... [but] ...experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. - Declaration of Independence 1 click per person per day on the link below means 1 additional cent for the Fistula Foundation - thanks! http://tinyurl.com/fight-fistulaSearch for low risk loans: http://www.kivabank.org/ Thanks Paul! |
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bikeme
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« Reply To This #2026 on: February 07, 2010, 11:32:18 AM » |
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Based on the faulty, scurrilous & fallacious logic that has been presented by some here, it now appears that Team Tisket is NOT the culprit but the guilty party(ies) is/has been narrowed down to Team Palestine, Team Norway & Team Kivafriends   |
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Where today are the Pequot? Where are the Narragansett, the Mohican, the Pokanoket, and many other once powerful tribes of our people? They have vanished before the avarice & the oppression of the White Man, as snow before a summer sun. Will we let ourselves be destroyed in our turn without a struggle, give up our homes, our country bequeathed to us by the Great Spirit, the graves of our dead & everything that is dear & sacred to us? I know you will cry with me, "Never! Never!"---Tecumseh of the Shawnee
"They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but they never kept but one; they promised to take our land, & they took it."---Mahpiua Luta (Red Cloud) of the Oglala Sioux
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David2051
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« Reply To This #2027 on: February 07, 2010, 11:39:54 AM » |
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Based on the faulty, scurrilous & fallacious logic that has been presented by some here, it now appears that Team Tisket is NOT the culprit but the guilty party(ies) is/has been narrowed down to Team Palestine, Team Norway & Team Kivafriends As I said before, I was speaking of appearances. I credited my own piece to Palestine. Palestine, Norway and KivaFriends are open teams. |
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Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed... [but] ...experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. - Declaration of Independence 1 click per person per day on the link below means 1 additional cent for the Fistula Foundation - thanks! http://tinyurl.com/fight-fistulaSearch for low risk loans: http://www.kivabank.org/ Thanks Paul! |
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Mona
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« Reply To This #2028 on: February 07, 2010, 11:43:17 AM » |
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Shall I tell you something? I am sick of all this moaning, blaming and scratching each others eyes out. This is not what this forum has been set up for. See where you find your loans from now on and get happy with them. I am on posting strike from now on. |
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bikeme
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« Reply To This #2029 on: February 07, 2010, 11:44:48 AM » |
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I spoke only of appearances.
The fact of the matter is that I was offered a piece of a loan recently by a "TaT" team member a full 6 hours after I originally tried to get on the loan. This is something I don't want to be a part of.
I recently found a dropped piece of the Faten loan. I hope it was from someone who changed their mind.
I am the Tisket team member who offered David the piece of this loan http://www.kiva.org/app.php?page=businesses&action=about&id=173221As I explained to him I had been watching this particular loan & 2 others. When I saw $50 of each loan time out, fall or be released from a basket, I grabbed $50 of each loan & then sent David a PM, stating that I had seen his post regretting that he had missed the chance to loan to Maggi Isabel and generously offered him the opportunity to get on the loan. He turned me down. Here is the PM I sent him & his reply: Hi Geoff, I just got home... Are you around? KF chat room? |
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Where today are the Pequot? Where are the Narragansett, the Mohican, the Pokanoket, and many other once powerful tribes of our people? They have vanished before the avarice & the oppression of the White Man, as snow before a summer sun. Will we let ourselves be destroyed in our turn without a struggle, give up our homes, our country bequeathed to us by the Great Spirit, the graves of our dead & everything that is dear & sacred to us? I know you will cry with me, "Never! Never!"---Tecumseh of the Shawnee
"They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but they never kept but one; they promised to take our land, & they took it."---Mahpiua Luta (Red Cloud) of the Oglala Sioux
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