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Author Topic: Large, Languishing Group Loans?  (Read 27824 times)
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Oriana
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« Reply To This #240 on: July 08, 2009, 05:32:54 PM »

Kathy,
Maybe Kiva can create a little picture with a caption saying "Loan gifted to...". Grin for your lender page.
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« Reply To This #241 on: July 08, 2009, 06:18:11 PM »

Since you do not need to be a registered member to put loans in your basket, anyone can load up on loans. Auto charging would not work for a lot of reasons.

Tracking cookies are how most, if not all, e-commerce sites keep track of what you are doing online. Managing the basket with cookies is easy. All they have to do is the manage bit.

However, there are ways around it, like deleting cookies, spoofing your IP address, etc. 99.9% of folks would not do that. Simple measures to limit gross problems would greatly improve the current situation.

1) Limit unregistered baskets - you do not want to turn off prospective lemders, but set clear expectations - "Thanks for choosing to help a Kiva Borrower, next step is to register. Please register in the now so your basket can be processed - Thanks"

2) While there are certainly people who do make significantly large loans to a single borrower, I think a sliding scale where the more in a basket the shorter the time to fund would be. Once again set expectaions, "Due to the popularity of loans, we ask you to check out when your basket exceeds $500.00" Someone who is serious about loans would have no problem commiting.

3) to help handle loans with "special value" - time, popularity, un-popularity, etc, Show how much is in a basket. If you want a piece, click on it, it alerts the other basket holder - not too hard to do - "Due to the popularity this loan, we ask you to check out now, as other lenders have requested to fund it as well" - if not funded in 15 minutes, the next in que gets it. Limit this feature to $25.00, so fakes cannot just pass around the whole total.

There are a million ideas. The idea is to make Kiva better, easier to use, fair, get loans funded, - where is the downside to this Huh?
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« Reply To This #242 on: July 08, 2009, 07:43:46 PM »

Kathy,
Maybe Kiva can create a little picture with a caption saying "Loan gifted to...". Grin for your lender page.
Oriana



That'd be funny Confetti

Hopefully, it'll work out in the end.
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« Reply To This #243 on: July 08, 2009, 09:51:24 PM »

so...
I resurrected this thread because I had *one* loan I was worried about...
then I went on vacation Smiley

I see that you guys managed to save my Kantutas group...
and went on to start saving the rest of the world Smiley

 Hat Wave  I think all you KivaNuts are terrific people who care so very much.

I joined your LLL team - but I'll have to talk to the bank tomorrow Smiley

jan

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« Reply To This #244 on: July 08, 2009, 11:15:48 PM »

Tom,
Those are really great ideas, right in line with my thoughts. I hope Kiva staff sees your post and that it will help them find a solution that will benefit everyone.  Smiley
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« Reply To This #245 on: July 09, 2009, 12:35:49 AM »

Seeems we have found one loan that will be crucial in this challenge: The 16 de mayo group has now only 22 hours left before it expires and is still in need of $1775. http://www.kiva.org/app.php?page=businesses&action=about&id=114319Runner

The good news is that we are down now in total to 29 and most of the other remaining loans are smaller and should get funding easier.  Smiley
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« Reply To This #246 on: July 09, 2009, 12:50:12 AM »

I sent a message to a couple of the teams I follow about the 16 de mayo group--here's hoping!  Runner
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« Reply To This #247 on: July 09, 2009, 02:16:13 AM »

The best thing is that there are only a couple loans that are more than four days until expiration which will expire before the 15th when funds are released.  It is the loans in the next four days expiration which are most at risk.  It seems Azerbaijan, Tajikistan and Bolivia are the main countries which hit this red zone. 

I tend to keep about 1/8th of my loans in Tajikistan, and Bolivia is usally pretty close.  That is my maximum generally.  I can up Azerbaijan after the 15th when funds get returned.

Colette

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« Reply To This #248 on: July 09, 2009, 04:15:26 AM »

Re 16 mayo, someone has just put $1000 into a basket. I hope he/she is serious over such a contribution, as there is only 58% raised, with 18 hours to go. Too late for 'playing games'.

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« Reply To This #249 on: July 09, 2009, 04:35:58 AM »

Re 16 mayo, someone has just put $1000 into a basket. I hope he/she is serious over such a contribution, as there is only 58% raised, with 18 hours to go. Too late for 'playing games'.

I'm pretty certain that some people are putting large amounts in their baskets (while still leaving a largish amount available for others) in the hope that it will push the loan up in the "popularity" listing so, although it could be classed as playing games, they are doing it for the "good" reason.

(Personally, I don't think the amount put into the basket affects the popularity - $25 is probably as effective as $1000 - but maybe putting $25 each into 40 different baskets would be 40 times more effective.   Huh?  I'm not sure - too many questions re how Kiva works "popularity" out.)
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