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« Reply To This #80 on: August 05, 2008, 11:04:03 AM »

Just sent e-mails to Premal and Fiona at different e-mail addresses I had for them, which, in the past, proved pretty useful.  In general, they've been great about getting back to me.  I cited them to Peter's discovery and to the posts following his so feel relatively confident that if they don't already know about this snafu and are trying to do something about it, that they soon will.

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« Reply To This #81 on: August 05, 2008, 11:05:10 AM »

Thanks, Jill.
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« Reply To This #82 on: August 05, 2008, 11:16:50 AM »

Does anyone have an idea why Google doesn't map these accurately within country?

It all comes down to Geocoding - the process of converting addresses (like "1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA") into geographic coordinates (like latitude 37.423021 and longitude -122.083739), which you can use to place markers or position the map.

Google Map Geocoding is getting better and better, though it is still not very good at locating towns (and even some large cities) in the developing world.  If it does not know a location it will throw up an error and the point cannot be plotted.  I suspect Kiva is playing safe by working on just the countries and clustering them around a point.  (personally I this becomes pretty meaningless with more than an handful of loans and it is a shame they don't link to one point in the country and give the number of loans in a marker - clicking on the marker could then provide the list).

Opera was the only way I was able to get my lender page(s) to load. It's still difficult to navigate from page-to-page, though. 

It is probably down to the page size - to view your page you are downloading almost 2MB of data !!

Some data here from an earlier post: http://www.kivafriends.org/index.php/topic,2359.msg38819.html#msg38819
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« Reply To This #83 on: August 05, 2008, 11:44:15 AM »

It is probably down to the page size - to view your page you are downloading almost 2MB of data !!

Some data here from an earlier post: http://www.kivafriends.org/index.php/topic,2359.msg38819.html#msg38819

Yes, indeed, Christopher, and thank you, very much!  Shout
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« Reply To This #84 on: August 05, 2008, 12:13:29 PM »

The KivaVision privacy breach now looks to have been fixed!

I just checked it again, and lenders' surnames are no longer showing.  Good!

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« Reply To This #85 on: August 05, 2008, 12:17:06 PM »

This must be a quick-fix in response to comments, Peter.

They have put "Undefined" in the spot where the names used to be!
Inelegant, to be sure, but at least they fixed it.
Let's give KFers credit for a teensyweensy chunk of this change, yes?

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: And now it looks like they've fixed it.
First names, as on Lender Pages.
Whew.
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« Reply To This #86 on: August 05, 2008, 12:19:09 PM »

Hi folks, Sorry about this oversight. Thanks for pointing it out to us so we could clean it up.
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« Reply To This #87 on: August 05, 2008, 12:25:49 PM »

No, thank YOU for fixing the problem so fast.

You do good work.
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« Reply To This #88 on: August 05, 2008, 12:40:16 PM »


Let's give KFers credit for a teensyweensy chunk of this change, yes?


The price of freedom privacy is eternal vigilance....   Smiley

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« Reply To This #89 on: August 05, 2008, 01:58:37 PM »


Google Map Geocoding is getting better and better, though it is still not very good at locating towns (and even some large cities) in the developing world.  If it does not know a location it will throw up an error and the point cannot be plotted.  I suspect Kiva is playing safe by working on just the countries and clustering them around a point.  (personally I this becomes pretty meaningless with more than an handful of loans and it is a shame they don't link to one point in the country and give the number of loans in a marker - clicking on the marker could then provide the list).


I'd support that improvement of clustering locations, noting a marker and count, perhaps at the capital city of the country. 

Side note: I am able to find most any towns, even in developing countries, using Google Earth.
My friend is an adventure traveller, and I look up the strangest places on GE from her travel log. Take for example, Taoudenni, Mali or Ouadane, Mauritania. GE is a great way to become more familiar with your borrower's country, town and its environment.

Besides the detailed satellite images (resolution seems to be improving everywhere, every day), GE has photos uploaded and posted all over the place, and it has lots of links into Wikis, and other sources.

I found a particular marketplace in a city cited on a loan description from Tanzania.

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