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Author Topic: Inauguration Stuff, Etc. A Thread For Those Who Just Can't Contain Themselves.  (Read 7307 times)
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« on: January 19, 2009, 11:58:03 AM »

Or, who don’t  want to.

It occurred to me that just as a number of people here did not want conversation of the U.S. elections to pervade the Forum and dominate a lot of the threads, so, probably, would many people feel the same way about posts about the inauguration and impending administration.  So, my starting this thread to limit the infiltration and possible proliferation of Obama-related posts is my attempt to try to please more of the people more of the time.


One of the commentators on CNN was just talking about some young Black teen who had been interviewed about how he felt about Obama.  The kid said something about how he had been thinking about going for a G.E.D., but now, with Obama, he was thinking about maybe a PH.D, instead......


If we’re all lucky, Obama’s victory and ultimate administration will put thoughts like that in the heads of kids from all backgrounds and cultural persuasions and just as, if not more important, will help us all make sure that those thoughts can travel the distance from pipe dream to actualized reality.  One thing's for certain.  It sure is going to take a tremendous amount more than the work and aspirations of any one single mortal, no matter how bright, no matter how committed that individual may be, to make anything really meaningful and permanent happen. 


I have no idea how the whole thing between ANK and Kiva is going to end up shaking out, but their slogan, noted, recently, by Diane in the Florence thread, that "We Are Better Together," (that good things will be possible only if we are and if we work together), for some reason, comes to mind here.
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« Reply To This #1 on: January 19, 2009, 12:49:45 PM »

Jill, I couldn't agree with you more.

If any of you wish to have the same luncheon that the Obama's will be feasting on tomorrow, here are the recipes.

Recipes from the 2009 Inaugural Luncheon
http://inaugural.senate.gov/documents/doc-2009-recipes.pdf

                         Rebecca Smiley

             

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« Reply To This #2 on: January 19, 2009, 01:00:23 PM »

Jill, I couldn't agree with you more.

If any of you wish to have the same luncheon that the Obama's will be feasting on tomorrow, here are the recipes.

Recipes from the 2009 Inaugural Luncheon
http://inaugural.senate.gov/documents/doc-2009-recipes.pdf

                         Rebecca Smiley

Rebecca: I am impressed! I don't like duck or pheasant so I won't ever make those but the Seafood Stew sounds great. Ditto for a few of the other recipes. Easy to make, too!
The quantities are large but no reason it can't be frozen in suitable quantities for many cold winter nights ahead.

Thanks!

Lorna


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« Reply To This #3 on: January 19, 2009, 02:42:01 PM »

Just heard Mrs. Ralph Abernathy being interviewed.   She’s the widow of the man who apparently brought Martin Luther King, Jr. into the Civil Rights Movement.   She was asked what she thought about the likelihood of young people, today, being galvanized to both sacrifice and participate, in these modern times, as so many young people, mostly black but a wonderful number of white and other youths, too, sacrificed (risked their lives) and participated during the late 50’s but especially the 60’s.


She responded that she thought that many young people don’t understand the terrific need that still exists (to ensure that fairness and justice for all actually becomes a reality as opposed to the fantasy it still represents for way too many) for young people to become involved, to participate.    She did say, though, that she believed that when and if the young people of today were made to realize how much their individual contributions were still needed, that yes, she was sure that they would step up.  Of course, that’s what our President-elect has been trying to convey – that there’s so much work to do,  that’s left to be done and that it’s going to take the whole village of us to raise and nurture our still youthful democracy.  And you, in other countries, too,  to cultivate and protect your own democracies or your hopes for one.


But what really got me wanting to post, again, about all this was her mentioning that her husband was 29 and that King, himself, was only 26 when they started the “Movement.”   Only 26. 


The story of those times, the almost unimaginable bravery and determination exemplified by so many so-called unsung heroes, including a phenomenal number of youths and even children, is so awe-inspiring, so, sometimes, wrenching, truly wrenching, that it’s small wonder that our President-elect, as he became aware of their story, cut short the somewhat aimless wandering and identity-crisis of his own youth and determined to use his life and abilities in service of others “in the fierce urgency of now.”


If any of you wouldn’t mind having a bit more inspiration for your own lives or something with which you could engender some of that inspiration in others,  I’ve got a couple of favorite books that I think would do the trick for you.   I already mentioned both, quite awhile ago, in the Book thread.   But they both are so amazing, so filled with lessons and inspiration for (I think) anyone, I have no compunction about pushing ‘em, once again.    It should go without saying that though their stories deal, specifically, with the struggle for civil rights, ostensibly, for black people, that struggle and the models it might represent for us, of course, generalizes out to any and every struggle for equity and decency for any  group of people.

Freedom’s Children: Young Civil Rights Activists Tell Their Own Stories
 

Letters from Mississippi: Reports from Civil Rights Volunteers and Freedom School Poetry of the 1964 Freedom Summer
http://www.crmvet.org/anc/letterms.htm


I’d apologize for getting so carried away about all this with you but 1) This stuff/The Possibilities of Today just fill me and 2) I don’t feel sorry at all.

Anyway, talking about this stuff is a pleasing alternative (for me) to ragging on Kiva, which is not to suggest that there aren’t some probably very legitimate reasons for the temptation to do so.

EDIT:  They showed the entire 17 minute "I Have a Dream" speech on TV earlier this morning.  I'm not sure I'd ever heard it all, or, if I did, I wasn't nearly so ready to hear and feel it as I was capable of hearing and feeling it, today.  It's so much more than those several lines that justabout everybody thinks of when they think of that speech.  SO MUCH MORE.   If you want to hear eloquence, real "chosen person" eloquence, check it out.  And sure, go ahead and substitute Palestinian, Native American, Gay-Lesbian, whatever you want for his use of "negro" if it will help you experience the timeless quality and truth of it.



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« Reply To This #4 on: January 19, 2009, 03:16:48 PM »

Driving to work this morning, I heard on a local radio station a 1-minute commentary that began with a rather boring description of MLK Day activities in the area.  I almost tuned out, but I am so glad I did not.  By the end of this brief piece, I found I was weeping with joy at a traffic light and almost forgot to drive through. 

"But for me, this year, the real tribute to the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and his message of hope and change won't be taking place today. It will happen tomorrow, in Washington, D.C.  That's when a man, judged by the content of his character instead of the color of his skin, will be inaugurated President of the United States.  That's the dream, realized, in absolutely the most meaningful way."


http://75.144.16.9/kliv/MP3_Audio/01_19_09_Weimers.mp3


I expect to be weeping with joy for a good long time tomorrow.  The future is just beginning.


love to you all,
--Diane.
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« Reply To This #5 on: January 19, 2009, 03:51:17 PM »

Thought y'all might like this on the Eve of Inauguration.

http://www.jacquielawson.com/viewcard.asp?code=1752340975563&source=jl999

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« Reply To This #6 on: January 19, 2009, 05:03:07 PM »

So, did I tell you that it was I who was the one who couldn't contain herself? *

On the news, just now, they were talking about the state of race relations in this country.   With Obama’s taking over the Presidency of the United States,  whether that means that Martin Luther King, Jr.’s dream has finally been fulfilled?

Not all that surprisingly, there’s a legitimate diversity of opinion on that.   One commentator quoted something that King, himself, apparently liked to quote, that came, originally, supposedly, from some former slave.   I thought that it was kind of neat and that it has potential usefulness for many of us in realms of our lives that include but also may extend quite beyond our relations with others.

“We ain’t what we wanna be.
We ain’t what we oughta be
We ain’t what we gonna be.
But Thank God, we ain’t what we was.”



Somebody just suggested a novel approach to the content of Barack Obama’s inauguration speech, tomorrow.  She said,
 “I don’t think he needs to say anything.   I’d kind of like to see him just stand there, Just Stand There ..... and Be,” 

The implication being that that, by itself, could and would say it all.  Wouldn’t that be something, wouldn’t that set the tongues a-waggin’ and the eyebrows a-raisin’,  if he took that advice?  I almost wish he would.

Okay, I think I, finally,  can give it (and you) a rest, at least for today.    But tomorrow, 
Just
Think About Tomorrow!


She exits, cackling......


* Or, maybe it was me.   Who knows and who cares?   You got my point, I'm sure.



Click on the first of the two links that immediately follow to view a very short video of Obama speaking about the yet-to-be constructed memorial for Martin Luther King, Jr. on the Washington Mall, to be set, I think, wonderfully appropriately, between the memorials for two of our most important presidents.   Too bad it couldn't have been built in time for what will be taking place on that mall, tomorrow.

https://www.kintera.org/site/c.hkIUL9MVJxE/b.4904035/k.B922/MLK_Birthday_Email/apps/ka/sd/donor.asp?c=hkIUL9MVJxE&b=4904035&en=idJDLFPoF8JyEHOoE9IyFONsFiLTKTOjEcLPISOlGcKOJMMqHrG

http://www.mlkmemorial.org/


P.S.S.S.S.S.  Thanks for the great musical accompaniment to this thread, Diane.  It fits just right
And since one great song deserves another, I'll finally finally finally end this post with a "He's Got/We've Got......"

Absolutely no commentary on Hillary Clinton, intended.  I didn't even know she was there til I just now watched the whole thing.  I just liked the song.







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« Reply To This #7 on: January 19, 2009, 05:30:36 PM »

Don't stop thinking about tomorrow!

It'll be here, better than before,
Yesterday's gone, yesterday's gone!

Don't you look back!




--Diane.
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« Reply To This #8 on: January 19, 2009, 05:58:14 PM »

Martin Luther King, Jr.'s last speech
                                                                                                                                       
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« Reply To This #9 on: January 20, 2009, 02:26:36 AM »

I saw an interview today for MLK day and the inauguration tomorrow, with Martin Luther King III (MLK Jrs son).  The interviewer asked about if he felt his Dads Dream had come true with the inauguration of Obama tomorrow.  Being my history-deficient self, I was surprised by and absolutely loved his answer.  He said that his Dad really talked a lot about three things being pertinent for society: the end of racism, the end of poverty and the end of militarism.  So tomorrow will be a huge event for one of those   Smiley  Lets hope now that we can work on the other two!!  Grin    Also, MLK III also said his father thought there could be a black president of the US within 40 years...    Grin  Yahoo! Clapping

I found some quotes from Martin Luther King Jr regarding poverty and militarism, which somehow were glossed over in all the MLK history I have seen:

"A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death." - 1967

"Nonviolence is the answer to the crucial political and moral questions of our time: the need for man to overcome oppression and violence without resorting to oppression and violence. Man must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression and retaliation. The foundation of such a method is love." - 1964

"The curse of poverty has no justification in our age. It is socially as cruel and blind as the practice of cannibalism at the dawn of civilization, when men ate each other because they had not yet learned to take food from the soil or to consume the abundant animal life around them. The time has come for us to civilize ourselves by the total, direct and immediate abolition of poverty." - 1967

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction....The chain reaction of evil--hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars--must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation." - 1963
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