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Author Topic: Who's helping you to fund that loan?  (Read 9442 times)
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Diane R
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« Reply To This #10 on: April 06, 2009, 07:19:21 PM »

Ian, thanks for the reply.  Another of our very helpful KivaFriends (*cough*Wolfgang*cough*) has provided me with a copy of the "fellow lenders" spreadsheet for my portfolio, so now all I need is to get Kiva to help me get the transaction history download to work and I'll be golden!  Thanks again so much.

--Diane.
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« Reply To This #11 on: April 06, 2009, 07:33:21 PM »

... all I need is to get Kiva to help me get the transaction history download to work and I'll be golden! 

If you want to be able to use the Summary spreadsheet, it will need the transaction export file and the loan export file.  (Although, if they get the transaction history download to work for your portfolio, the loan export should also work.)
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« Reply To This #12 on: May 20, 2009, 06:49:46 PM »

Ian, I finally got a chance to run your Common Lenders tool, and I just wanted to say WOW...I love Excel, and I love watching it at work crunching numbers.  That was great fun!

Thanks for all you do for us, Ian, even if Kiva HQ doesn't get it   Wink

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« Reply To This #13 on: May 20, 2009, 07:22:11 PM »


If you are instead getting an actual "timeout" message of some sort, that is going to be different to the rest of us, and it won't matter what time of day you try - it will be related simply to the time that it takes Kiva's servers to extract the information for your portfolio from the databases and then format it into an Excel file.

Just to be completely clear, the Transactions page does not load, period.  There is no time-out message-- it just waits for a few minutes and then marks it as "done".
Dan

P.S. Yes, a CSV file export would make so much more sense than an Excel format.
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« Reply To This #14 on: June 17, 2009, 10:59:14 AM »

Ian,

A bit later, as now am catching up with some older posting, but I also downloaded and tried your tool.   Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
Just amazing, and, I love to think about the potentialities of it.

As a PhD student particularly interested in social networks and hyperlink networks research attached to platforms for social change like Kiva (as my last survey which has been running since two days ago clarifies (waiting for even more contributors), as you can see from my hopefully not too annoying signature or here http://www.kivafriends.org/index.php/topic,2964.msg60646.html#new ), I'd love to see or work on something that explains a bit of the wealth of connections developed around Kivans, KivaFriends, Kiva teams, even attached to other statistics (E.g. number of loans, background, similarities and differences among lenders).

Three questions:  Smiley
- What does "Kiva HQ doesn't get it" mean?
- Thought about extending this work to other data?
- Why not Web-based, with all the benefits for rich visualization modes?

In any case,
Thank you very much,

Damien

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« Reply To This #15 on: June 17, 2009, 05:00:06 PM »

Three questions:  Smiley
- What does "Kiva HQ doesn't get it" mean?
I think Nonny's remark was in regard to the fact that Kiva ignored my request to include the spreadsheets I had developed as part of their "which is the best Kiva app" survey.  We assume they don't understand that Microsoft Office applications are just as valid as any other development tool.

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- Thought about extending this work to other data?
Yes, but I don't have the imagination to decide what other data.  Feel free to make suggestions.

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- Why not Web-based, with all the benefits for rich visualization modes?
a) Web-based requires a web-server.  I have one, but the band-width available on my plan would not support me putting such an app on it.  (Not without costing me more than I am willing to spend on it - I'd rather use my money to fund a Kiva loan instead! Laugh)

b) I am not a "graphical" person, I am a "number" person.  So I find spreadsheet tables much easier to interpret than pretty maps, etc.  And that means I don't have the imagination to think how other people would like to see the output displayed graphically.
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« Reply To This #16 on: June 17, 2009, 06:37:46 PM »

Ok, got it. I guess Kiva HQ they had in mind Web application to sustain the whole Open API idea.
At the same time, I think your application is for the moment the one with the highest qualitative value.
Most applications developed are about displaying, not revealing semantic patterns.

If extended it could reveal very interesting lending patters, which might make things a bit too "transparent" (but what is not here) but very useful to Kiva itself for understanding how networks (and teams) grow and cooperate (or not) and which ones do this in an interesting way, or finally whether natural groups form outside teams or communities.
It would give another layer of understanding on how we interact around Kiva.

The "team" data is the first one I'd  think about then. (to know to which team - KivaFriends apart - we are closer). Attached to this, country data.
Then the information about overlaps can be ordered and values higher than a certain amount, like 5, could be nicely mapped to see whether any surprising (or not really) relation among teams (E.g. Kiva Christians and Agnostics)  or countries emerge.

The other way around is of course very interesting. The most interesting thing I'd love to know in the future would be about who funds American loans, on aggregate. But that might be way another thing.

Also, mapping the information of the last, for example 200 loans of a Team and then compare team with each other.

Finally, Web Server: of course totally understand you. (Kiva - or a nice Web hosting company or else should provide for that)
Maps: I totally agree on that; as I said, many applications on mapping around, but little use apart from visualization. The graphical side could be left to somebody else to complete the work, I'd just love to see the quality of your work displayed in a way to be easily grasped by everybody.

Thank you,  Thumbs Up  Grin
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For all KivaFriends members and readers: I would be very very grateful if you could fill my short survey on your engagement with Kiva Smiley
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« Reply To This #17 on: June 18, 2009, 07:08:01 PM »

- What does "Kiva HQ doesn't get it" mean?

Sorry I couldn't get your question answered in quick time, Damian...Ian did guess the meaning correctly.   Grin

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