Interesting Pictures

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[RichardF]

This is a SELFINA Field Partner collage.

Kiva Entrepreneur Credits

SELFINA entrepreneurs shown in the collage from upper left to lower right.

1. Itika J. Mwakyembe
2. Magreth N. Mwakyoma
3. Tetwas P. Mwankangale
4. Elizabeth C. Mwalusamba
5. Joyce S. Francis
6. Joisi M. Zakaria
7. Esther M. Mwakipesile
8. Nelusigwe A. Mlokela
9. Patricia Ochieng
10. Anne T. Mtawa
11. Sista S. Waile
12. Zena Mustafa
13. Joan Shekallaghe
14. Elizabeth Silayo
15. Katherine N. Mwakibinga

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I love these women's faces. Thank you for this.

Been thinking a lot about the pictures.

Lately I've been almost perverse in my choice of some
(not all) loans as re: their photos. Sometimes if it is a really
really horrible photo, that tips me over into
making the loan.

I figure it this way: The borrower really has no
control in how a picture is framed, lit, cropped,
taken. It is clear that the person taking the
picture does not always have the best
skills in using the camera. So if the borrower
puts their trust in the MFI to put them
in the best light and then a cruddy picture
ends up on the website, should they suffer?

Are we all VERY GLAD our photos don't accompany
things like our job or loan apps? (In fact, am I
glad that this, I am pretty sure, is not legal
in the US?)

If the wife of Mister Feet Up With Drink In Hand knew
how much time we'd devoted to talking about
that picture, would she regret asking for the loan?

I dunnno....


Ann
whose passport photo is EVEN WORSE than the one on her driver's license, as if that was possible

[RichardF]

Ann, I was surprised how compelling the SELFINA "BMV shots" (Bureau of Motor Vehicles) were to me.  I intentionally added SELFINA immediately after Friendship Bridge to illustrate the differences between presentations.  But, as it turns out, everyone's story is in their face.  "The eyes are the windows to the soul," certainly seems to ring true here.

[wthepoo]

Are we all VERY GLAD our photos don't accompany things like our job or loan apps? (In fact, am I glad that this, I am pretty sure, is not legal
in the US?)

Good points you make there, Ann.

As far as this goes... I'm not sure about "not legal" but I have at least been told that companies in the US just completely disregard applications with photos so that they don't run the risk being sued on the grounds that they had made their pick by reasons of appearance/race/gender/age...
I have also heard that people in the US don't usually include things like age/gender/marital status in their CVs - right?

Well, the situation is quite different here in Germany (and in most European countries IIRC): You are definitely not under an obligation to include any of this - and prospective employers (etc.) are forbidden to enquire or [officially] reach their final decisions by those factors, but so far, an application without a photo or without stating the date of birth is widely regarded as totally unprofessional and will probably (if there are many applicants) not be seriously considered. Basically tradition, I think, and it seems to be changing over time - especially with new anti-discrimination legislation in place in most EC-countries.

Anyway, best wishes,
Wolfgang.
(who would also prefer to keep his mugshot out of applications and the like)

[Margie]

When I was working in the Human Resources office for the local school district, some of the recent grads applying for teaching positions would include videos with their applications.  Not sure if they were advised to include the videos.  Personally, I thought it was rather tacky, but I guess it's acceptable now.  BTW, we never watched them nor did we include them with the interview packets.

[RichardF]

In the P2P world, sites like Prosper and Zopa encourage borrowers to post images of themselves.  In the teacher education world, many states now require teaching videos for some aspect of licensing, so beginning teachers often have videos of themselves from their student teaching days.

[Evelyn Yvonne Theriault]

I've noticed that most beginning teachers I saw  this year had teaching videos as part of their professional portfolios. In Quebec, the creation of a teaching portfolio is seen as an excellent way for teachers to understand the portfolio process - as well as helping in the interview process, so most teaching programs (whether French or English) require one.
In Quebec, unlike I think certain parts of the States, there is a lot of competition for most teaching positions so a portfolio allows the school to consider the teacher's strengths and philosophy of teaching. The videos are usually of teachers in the classrooms during what we call their "stages" (internships?).
Evelyn

Link: KIVAPEDIA EDUCATION
http://www.kivapedia.org/index.php/Main_Page/Education

[RichardF]

Evelyn, here's some of the education lingo I hear in the States for various types of field experiences.  Undergraduate college student teacher candidates typically have a "student teaching" placement during their senior year.  Performance assessments of a teaching portfolio more and more require a video clip as part of the portfolio.  Beginning teachers usually have to submit such a portfolio during the first or second year of their induction period.  Other school professionals, like administrators and school counselors usually would have an internship as part of their graduate school training.

[saabnet]

I thought this one was interesting too.. I'm sure it was a mistake, but it looks quite artistic. She's working on making some incense.



Tran Thi Thoa from Viet Nam.

http://www.kiva.org/app.php?page=businesses&action=about&id=53104

-Scott

[bikeme]

Hey Scott,

If you go back two pages in this thread (10 & 11) you will see the picture People Believer posted, the question I posed & the informantive answer supplied by RichardF & his demonstration of the photos progression.

Hi Lily, Hi Lo

Geoff