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Author Topic: Credit Watch - July 15, 2009  (Read 8430 times)
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« on: July 14, 2009, 05:53:07 PM »

In hope that this month's credits don't take an extra half-day to begin arriving, here's a thread for the July credit watch discussion.  I for one am very much looking forward to seeing those credits roll in this month -- and I know many others are also!


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« Reply To This #1 on: July 14, 2009, 06:32:22 PM »

Hear, hear!

What do you think, will they start at the top of the alphabet again?  I think they've gone through one rotation now (start, end, middle).

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« Reply To This #2 on: July 14, 2009, 06:34:26 PM »

I know I'm saying what is being chanted in everyone's heads..but I can't wait for my Kiva credits!!!!! Grin
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« Reply To This #3 on: July 14, 2009, 06:56:08 PM »

Hear, hear!

What do you think, will they start at the top of the alphabet again?  I think they've gone through one rotation now (start, end, middle).

John


Oh, they don't all get rolled out at once? I had no idea.
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« Reply To This #4 on: July 14, 2009, 06:59:36 PM »


Oh, they don't all get rolled out at once? I had no idea.

It usually takes several hours (my estimate last month was too short, I'd now say about 5 hours without stops).

They usually start processing the MFIs in an alphabetical order - last month, after something went wrong, IIRC they started a second run from the back of the alphabet.

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« Reply To This #5 on: July 14, 2009, 10:50:26 PM »

Will I have my credits by morning? Grin I've usually gotten mine bit by bit over the course of weeks, and then a couple big amounts fairly close together. Does everyone have the same experience? This month it hasn't been like that at all, I've been sitting at 0.00 credits since...well since I got them.  Laugh
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« Reply To This #6 on: July 14, 2009, 10:57:36 PM »

While we wait for things to start... Perhaps someone can answer a basic question.  Why are loans all credited on the same day rather than trickling in throughout the month?  I have noticed a few that occasionally get paid on a different day but it's usually the 15th.
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« Reply To This #7 on: July 14, 2009, 11:03:18 PM »

Will I have my credits by morning? Grin I've usually gotten mine bit by bit over the course of weeks, and then a couple big amounts fairly close together. Does everyone have the same experience? This month it hasn't been like that at all, I've been sitting at 0.00 credits since...well since I got them.  Laugh
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If the script doesn't fail again like it did last month, then yes, you should have credits by morning. A very high percentage of the number of repayments happens on the 15th.

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« Reply To This #8 on: July 14, 2009, 11:43:24 PM »

Thanks Scott!!!  Smiley I wonder if I will wake up extra early before work... Grin I usually only do that if there is the promise of a mocha latte involved. Wink
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« Reply To This #9 on: July 14, 2009, 11:56:24 PM »

While we wait for things to start... Perhaps someone can answer a basic question.  Why are loans all credited on the same day rather than trickling in throughout the month?  I have noticed a few that occasionally get paid on a different day but it's usually the 15th.

In the early hours of the morning of the 15th of each month, Kiva starts processing the lists that the MFIs have sent in of repayments that they received from entrepreneurs in the previous calendar month.

Kiva then determines how much the MFI owes to Kiva and compares that to how much Kiva owes to the MFI in respect of the MFI's fundraising loans.  Kiva then "nets off" (or is that "netts off" - I'm never sure of the correct spelling) the amounts and, if Kiva owes the MFI money they wire it to them, but if the MFI owes Kiva money then Kiva issues the MFI with a bill (which is now due to be paid by the 1st of the following month).

As an example, if the MFI had received back $10,000 from entrepreneurs in June, and had raised $15,000 in loans on the Kiva website since the last billing cycle, then Kiva would pretend it had actually received the $10,000 from the MFI, credit it to the appropriate lenders, and then wire the MFI the remaining $5,000.

If the numbers were $10,000 and $7,000 instead, Kiva would credit $7,000 to lenders (lowest loan ids first if I remember correctly) and send a bill to the MFI for the other $3,000 - which may turn up anytime in the next two weeks.

This "netting-off" process and once-a-month billing process is done to reduce the costs of wire transfers to and from the MFI.
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