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« Reply To This #40 on: August 19, 2009, 05:26:57 PM »

I don't know if anyone else has volunteered, but I would be willing to help you with this massive undertaking Diane. 

-Kerry-

I recommend setting up a shared google doc so that it can evolve easily with multiple updaters. I would love to be able to have one location to go to look for the requests. Previously in this thread, I think I saw that Kiva has some plans for expanding their portfolio functionality? I don't want to duplicate any efforts in my own development. Thanks.
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« Reply To This #41 on: August 21, 2009, 05:57:54 PM »

ATTENTION:  With the help of a volunteer or two, the comments in this thread will be summarized starting Sunday, 23 Aug 2009, after which the thread will be locked to new posts.  If you have any further comments to add, please do so now.  Thank you for your input so far!

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« Reply To This #42 on: August 22, 2009, 12:28:16 PM »

After Monday night, I could help Diane.  Maybe you could get one other person and we could each do one thread.

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« Reply To This #43 on: August 25, 2009, 07:59:40 AM »

SUMMARY COMPLETE.....
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« Reply To This #44 on: August 27, 2009, 10:35:16 PM »

What if this article were written in some parallel Kivavese?... Thinking


Wikipedia Kiva to Limit Edits Time for Articles Loans on Living People in Baskets
To prevent false information lending from showing up on the site

Wikipedia Kiva has grown to become by far the biggest encyclopedia microfinance P2P lending site in the world, with over three million articles borrowers, one of the top ten sites online and the first place where many people look for information connecting with others to alleviate poverty. Its huge growth in popularity is in no small part due to its egalitarian nature and the fact that everyone could edit any article make a loan to any borrower on the site. But its philosophy is about to undergo a major change with the introduction of a new editorial level for modifying entries on living persons way to make loans and the changes transactions will now have to be approved by an experienced editor translator before going live made immediately, rather than being placed in a "basket" first.

“We are no longer at the point that it is acceptable to throw things at the wall and see what sticks,” Michael Snow Sasha Obama, the chairman of the board of Wikimedia Kiva Multinational, Wikipedia's Kiva's parent, told the New York Times. “There was a time probably when the community was more forgiving of things that were inaccurate or fudged in some fashion — whether simply misunderstood or an author a lender had some ax to grind. There is less tolerance for that sort of problem now.”

The new feature will require each new edit to articles dedicated to living persons loan to be “flagged” for approval "encumbered" from a confirmed Kiva Credit Account before going live on the site. Currently any saved changes loans instantly become available to go into anyone's basket and it may take hours or even days for a more experienced and trusted editor to verify them the loan to clear or be "dropped" from the basket. This allows false information loans to stay up on the site for long periods of time, sometimes even weeks for more obscure articles listings (preventing them from being fully funded), something that Wikipedia Kiva plans to change.

The fact that inaccuracies unfulfilled loans do show up and sometimes even a deliberately misleading information loan commitment is put up on the site has been one of Wikipedia's Kiva's biggest weaknesses and the main source of criticism from its detractors. The new mechanism is already live on the German version of the site and it will be introduced to the English one soon, although Wikipedia Kiva cofounder Jimmy Wales Matt Flannery says it's only a test for the time being and there are several questions that need to be answered before a final decision is made.
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« Reply To This #45 on: October 11, 2009, 10:36:29 PM »

Inspired by the Late Loaning Lenders Team and Transparency, it seems that the Fundraising info available in the API feed (funded_amount and basket_amount) should be available to the garden variety lender as well.  Here's a doctored-up screen shot on how it could look.  When the current website shows 100% raised so far, it often isn't.  Maybe Kiva should pay more attention to what often does goes on that jeopardizes loans getting really funded.



* AlegriaFundedBasketNeeded.jpg (192.67 KB, 1024x768 - viewed 78 times.)
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« Reply To This #46 on: October 14, 2009, 04:09:18 PM »

SUMMARY COMPLETE.....

Where did the summary go?   Could someone post it here?

Dan
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« Reply To This #47 on: October 14, 2009, 08:21:08 PM »

Inspired by the Late Loaning Lenders Team and Transparency, it seems that the Fundraising info available in the API feed (funded_amount and basket_amount) should be available to the garden variety lender as well.  Here's a doctored-up screen shot on how it could look.  When the current website shows 100% raised so far, it often isn't.  Maybe Kiva should pay more attention to what often does goes on that jeopardizes loans getting really funded.

Maybe if Kiva is concerned about cluttering their page they should add a details button that would expand exactly what is funded and what is still in baskets.

It also would help me know whether to prowl around an enticing loan waiting for funding to fall out of baskets.  If nothing is in baskets, move along.

Dan
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« Reply To This #48 on: October 14, 2009, 09:55:20 PM »

What if this article were written in some parallel Kivavese?... Thinking


Wikipedia Kiva to Limit Edits Time for Articles Loans on Living People in Baskets
To prevent false information lending from showing up on the site

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« Reply To This #49 on: October 15, 2009, 01:56:07 AM »

Where did the summary go?   Could someone post it here?

Dan

Hi Dan, I'll be happy to post it in about a week, I do not have access just now to the computer where the summary is stored.  (Charmaine, would you like to either resend it to me or post it here yourself in the meantime?  I did pretty it up a bit before sending it to Gerard with the other two summaries.)

--Diane.
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